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as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid. we don't remember that the polls have shown republicans up a lot. and secondly this idea that people in the media, if their personal views go one way, the product of the reporting goes another way. i don't think there's resonating with the public at all. if you go back to important media failures like the iraq war or the financial crisis, on iraq there may have been a lot of reporters who were personally skeptical but there was a collective media failure in the way they covered it. so the idea that someone's personal views are always going to represent them in what they write or how they report, i don't think that computes, i think you would have to be dumb or tuned out to buy the crap that paul ryan is peddling there. >> and then there's the question of who is the real arnold schwarzenegg
as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid. we don't remember that the polls have shown republicans up a lot. and secondly this idea that people in the media, if their personal views go one way, the product of the reporting goes another...
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. >> peter, when romney was governor of massachusetts, the unemployment rate went down because a lot of people left the state. is he fair to make this point now? >> i think it is fair to say that the unemployment rate has come down simply over the course of this recovery and the bahama presidency because fewer people looked for work. if the same number of people were looking for work today as when mr. obama became president, that number is consistent with my computations. it's important to recognize that this month the household survey for which unemployment rate is computed as opposed to the jobs count and enterprises indicated that about 800,000 people found jobs. that's about 6% increase in the number of people employed, which is an absurd number. no one can believe we have a 135% annual growth rate in employment with the economy growing so slowly. what it appears is a lot of folks out of work have established home-based businesses and they're working on some kind of part-time basis. a reporter that lost his job working as a stringer or something. i don't view the 7.8% as encourag
. >> peter, when romney was governor of massachusetts, the unemployment rate went down because a lot of people left the state. is he fair to make this point now? >> i think it is fair to say that the unemployment rate has come down simply over the course of this recovery and the bahama presidency because fewer people looked for work. if the same number of people were looking for work today as when mr. obama became president, that number is consistent with my computations. it's...
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we've seen it i mean you've heard it here from robert, they're going to try to ground down romney on the idea he's a chameleon. that was different from wow, he really performed well. >> interestingly, the groups of undecided showed that they didn't necessarily change their vote one way or the other. i think when you have paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee for goodness sakes, it would be an affront to him to have make up all of these numbers and so i -- i think you'll kind of have the opposite of what we had before. where president obama got a little wonky and mitt romney got pretty aggressive and high style. joe biden is going to have the style in this debate and ryan is going to be the wonk and the question is whether eel tell the truth on the numbers. >> let me switch gear as little bit to a different performance this week that got a lot of attention. i had a chance to sit down with a familiar face to this program, arnold schwarzenegger, former governor of california, a high-profile figure in the republican part
we've seen it i mean you've heard it here from robert, they're going to try to ground down romney on the idea he's a chameleon. that was different from wow, he really performed well. >> interestingly, the groups of undecided showed that they didn't necessarily change their vote one way or the other. i think when you have paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee for goodness sakes, it would be an affront to him to have make...
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they are going to try to grind down romney on the idea that he is a chia chameleon, who do you trust, to he really performed well. >> well, the group of undecideds showed that they didn't necessarily change their vote one way or the other. i think when you have -- paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee, for goodness sakes. it would be an affront to him to make up all of these numbers. >> let me switch to a different performance this week that got a lot of attention. i had the chance to sit down with a familiar face on this program, arnold schwarzenegger, former governor of california. recent revelations about his personal conduct have hurt his reputation, to say the very least. you have noticed he's been out this week with a new book called "total recall:my unbelievable true story" in which he details what he says are his successes and his failures. governor schwarzenegger, whack welcome back to "meet the press" meet. . >> thank you. it's good to be back again. >> let's start with politics. you're still a high profile
they are going to try to grind down romney on the idea that he is a chia chameleon, who do you trust, to he really performed well. >> well, the group of undecideds showed that they didn't necessarily change their vote one way or the other. i think when you have -- paul ryan is not going to be able to do what mitt romney did. he was the chairman of the budget committee, for goodness sakes. it would be an affront to him to make up all of these numbers. >> let me switch to a different...
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. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geopolitical foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. if you vote for me in november i'll finish what we started. >> with four weeks until election day, the romney etch a sketch machine is furiously trying to erase every crazy thing mitt romney has said. in a foreign policy speech mitt romney contradicted what he said on a secretly recorded tape. here's what he said on the tape. >> the palestinians don't wanting to see peace anyway, and these thorny issues and i say there's just know way. so what you d
. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do...
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>> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopeless losers. he was asked what he should have said. >> what would you have said if he did bring it up? >> well, clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions now and again you are going to say something that does not come out right. i said something that is completely wrong. i believe that my life has shown that i care about 100%. and that has been demonstrated throughout my life. this campaign is about the 100%. when i'm president it will be about helping 100% >> here is what romney said after mother jones revealed romney's 47% remarks. >> it is a question and answer about
>> who is the real mitt romney? >> every day he is in a different position. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy for pbs. >> he is going to crack down on seseme street. >> i love big bird. >> elmo has to watch out. >> i think i get the last word. >> with 33 days until the presidential election moments ago on fox news mitt romney said he was completely wrong when he said that 47% of americans are hopeless losers. he was asked what he should have said....
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romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the way, romney talked about card check on the stump since the primaries. others call it the employee free choice act. it was a priority four years ago. it never passed because a few democrats helped kill it. it's faded from the debate since 2009. that's why it was odd to hear
romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had...
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more florida shenanigans, we have a video of a romney volunteer down there saying that president obama is a muslim. it was picked up by an answering machine after the volunteer didn't hang up before moving on to her next call. the clip aired in tampa on a radio station, wmmf. nbc news hasn't independently authenticated the audio. >> you don't want obama. you really don't want obama because he'll get rid of your medicare. you might as well say good-bye to it. yeah, and, i don't know if you've done any research on obama or not, but eggs a muslim. >> well, he is a muslim. that's push polling. you pretend to be polling and all you're doing is putting out the word the guy is a communist. >> would you vote for someone who believes in communist. we're taking a survey. we've been talking about this for a couple years. for some reason the republican party and their conservative allies can't get away from describing obama as muslim, not born here, not believing in america. >> i know, i know, i know this is what they do. the head of florida's gop where the call appears to originate told "the st.
more florida shenanigans, we have a video of a romney volunteer down there saying that president obama is a muslim. it was picked up by an answering machine after the volunteer didn't hang up before moving on to her next call. the clip aired in tampa on a radio station, wmmf. nbc news hasn't independently authenticated the audio. >> you don't want obama. you really don't want obama because he'll get rid of your medicare. you might as well say good-bye to it. yeah, and, i don't know if...
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i think the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out on issues like pre-existing conditions, we'll make sure people understand and the president said this. romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'll replace obama care but he won't say with what. he said he'll appeal wall street reform and put regulations back in place but he won't share them with the american people. does anyone think they're too good for the middle class? these are plans that will harm the middle class and our economy and again, i would step back. the drivers in this election, romney's huge tax cut for the wealthy. his supportive medicare vouchers. his supportive repeal and wall street reform. our ad we're running, two-minute ad in battleground states the two arguments the president makes against the romney approach is he wants a huge tax cut for the wealthy and he wants to roll back wall street reform. yooeng anybody in america missed the point the president made that those things are bad for our economy and bad for
i think the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out on issues like pre-existing conditions, we'll make sure people understand and the president said this. romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'll replace obama care but he won't say with what. he said he'll appeal wall street reform and put regulations back in place but he won't share them with the american people. does anyone think they're too good for the middle class?...
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right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obama only, it obvi it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact, in order to, you know, occlude the accusation against you that, i mean, is that how you do it? >> go that, go after the tactic. again, it's easy to say this as a monday morning quarterback, but then you pivot to the substance of it and explain why what he just said is not true. you don't call him a liar or say that's not true. or do something that can end up, you know, going viral in some way that is not helpful to the campaign. just have to very clearly and cogently, and it was cogency that was lacking last night, rip through the other guy's point. >> mitt romney said he does not espouse positions he'
right at the top of that debate last night when romney first mentioned trickle-down government, obama only, it obvi it's easy to say in retrospect, he should have said, no, you're the big supporter of trickle-down economics, let's not confuse the issue, let's be clear, you believe in trickle-down economics and grab the initiative. he has to do that the next time when romney plays these word games. >> is the thing to do to name the tactic? you are doing this in order to confuse the fact,...
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this is mitt romney we're talking about. what are the odds of him taking my advice. >> both presidential candidates battening down the hatches. >> who's going to bring the dynamite to denver. >> only with an day to go. >> the great debate. >> the rocky mountain showdown. >> 350e78 want to know who's going to win. >> who's going to score the punches. >> what you need is sin certifity, if you can fake that you can do everything. >> mitt romney tried to show his empathy. >> i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy. >> i'm sfriesed it took him that long to get there. he didn't spend enough time in the middle. >> romney's task is more difficult. >> romney's task is more difficult. >> he has to introduce himself to the american people. >> how many times can you reintroduce yourself. >> i'm mitt romney, i'm mitt romney, i'm mitt romney ♪ >> i'm mitt romney. >> i believe that abargs should be safe and local in this country. >> i will repeal obama care. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. >> he's try
this is mitt romney we're talking about. what are the odds of him taking my advice. >> both presidential candidates battening down the hatches. >> who's going to bring the dynamite to denver. >> only with an day to go. >> the great debate. >> the rocky mountain showdown. >> 350e78 want to know who's going to win. >> who's going to score the punches. >> what you need is sin certifity, if you can fake that you can do everything. >> mitt romney...
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while president obama and governor romney hunker down to prep for wednesday's big night, the candidates lower expectations by heaping praise on each other. we will entertain campaign bizarre world. >>> money boo boo, details on the latest cash dash and the new ad that puts lbj's daisy to shame. and mike check on jfk. we'll listen to newly released audiotapes that show kennedy's real views on the civil rights movement, cuban missile crisis and george romney. all of that when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, shari
while president obama and governor romney hunker down to prep for wednesday's big night, the candidates lower expectations by heaping praise on each other. we will entertain campaign bizarre world. >>> money boo boo, details on the latest cash dash and the new ad that puts lbj's daisy to shame. and mike check on jfk. we'll listen to newly released audiotapes that show kennedy's real views on the civil rights movement, cuban missile crisis and george romney. all of that when...
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it comes down to who's got the energy behind him. >> does mitt romney need to hit it out of the park? is this going to be one of the seminole moments in the campaign? >> i think there are a lot of moments. i think it's cumulative. i think people more and more believe that president obama has the right message. and clearly he's got a lot of energy in terms of his volunteer base tout there. >> carol simpson was on here yesterday and fascinating. she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear. i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on
it comes down to who's got the energy behind him. >> does mitt romney need to hit it out of the park? is this going to be one of the seminole moments in the campaign? >> i think there are a lot of moments. i think it's cumulative. i think people more and more believe that president obama has the right message. and clearly he's got a lot of energy in terms of his volunteer base tout there. >> carol simpson was on here yesterday and fascinating. she moderated the debate between...
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it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can
it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who...
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most importantly, it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. ron? >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credible economist that thinks these numbers add up, and romney thus far has gotten away with not having to justify the numbers that don't add up. >> everybody wants something free. he's offering them that. cotton candy for the world. thank you. ron reagan and michelle goldberg. >> up next, the rogue's gallery of republicans who don't believe science. wait until you catch this science committee in the house and its membership. this is "hardball," the place for politics. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which n
most importantly, it's to get the tax rates down from 35% to 38%. that's the goal he said. ron? >> romney said something interesting in the debate where he basically said nobody can say that my tax cut is going to add to the deficit if i say it won't. well, in fact, everybody who has looked at the plan says it will add to the deficit. there isn't a single credible economist that thinks these numbers add up, and romney thus far has gotten away with not having to justify the numbers that...
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governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again, but he's going to bring the hammer down on "sesame street." >> republicans already hitting back on this as we saw with john mccain. so, this detour through sesame street, is that really a wise way to try to put some upheaval in romney's trajectory toward pennsylvania avenue? i mean, this strategy, talking about big bird. >> yeah, well, look at it this way, the debate was so dispiriting for the president's base that, you know, this is the one thing when you played the clip of the president making the big bird joke, what happened? tons of laughter. this is something that i'm sure the campaign realizes the base likes it, it gets them re-energized and refocused, and keep in mind -- >> doesn't it remind them, though, of what a stinky debate it was for president obama? i mean, doesn't it take you back to all of this, that this was a lackluster performance for a man who wants to keep his job? >> right, yes, so it was a lack buster performance and there's no getting around it. you can't pretend that that debate didn't happen, but y
governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again, but he's going to bring the hammer down on "sesame street." >> republicans already hitting back on this as we saw with john mccain. so, this detour through sesame street, is that really a wise way to try to put some upheaval in romney's trajectory toward pennsylvania avenue? i mean, this strategy, talking about big bird. >> yeah, well, look at it this way, the debate was so dispiriting for the president's base...
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when romney stole the show by literally turning upside down what his positions have been, it was time to hold him accountable. >> i can't make sense out of it. it's been said in some places and no, not by me that obama actually, this has been said by people that maybe he's not very bright. the other night i actually wondered what's wrong with him. i don't think it's because he's afraid to be an angry black man to say the things you were talking about would not have looked angry, just intelligence. i suspect he's used to being riding on that charisma of his. i think he thought standing there and being his larger than life self would take care of things. >> there's a few other theories about this. steve schmidt worked on the 2012 reelect bush. the president always has more important things to do. when you say you need to go to debate practice and he says turkey is about to go to war. i think preparation does matter. i think we saw that a little bit. >> would he have practiced for these? >> yes, yes. >> i just want to say, the one thing they should practice if their advisers didn't know
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governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's bringing the hammer down on sesame street. >> back too "hardball." that was president obama of course in los angeles just yesterday taunting mitt romney for saying he'll starve big bird if elected president. and check out this cartoon from the atlanta journal constitution's mike lukovivh, quote, president mitt romney and his team reviewing live video on raid of big bird's compound. as for operation save big bird, there's this. hillary clinton takes the lead. quote, confirmed, i got the bird. we will move him to a safe house in the morning. that's hillary clinton. now, a few words from a member of the house science committee, georgia republican paul brown, a medical doctor, gave a sermon at a baptist church last month and addressed the issue of evolution. >> i've come to understand that all that stuff i was talk taught about evolution, embryology, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. and it's lies to try to keep me and the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.
governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's bringing the hammer down on sesame street. >> back too "hardball." that was president obama of course in los angeles just yesterday taunting mitt romney for saying he'll starve big bird if elected president. and check out this cartoon from the atlanta journal constitution's mike lukovivh, quote, president mitt romney and his team reviewing live video on raid of big bird's compound. as for operation save big bird,...
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. >> i sat down next to him and he said what happens next? and i spoke with him about what i believe happens next. clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. david can't lose. i love the greatness of the soul of the american people. >> david's parents, members of romney's congregation, spoke at the convention. it's one of those things that you a lot of people have been saying romney needs to do. his sons have been doing it. ann's been doing it, but now, mitt romney himself starting to incorporate some of the personal stories in some of the things he did as head of his church in boston. >>> last night in boston at a fund-raiser, president did a little soul searching of his own when it comes to his campaign. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> and if you didn't get that little subtle hint, the president trieded to put a positive spin on his debate performance with what's now a well worn phrase. >> back in 2008, everybody always remembers the vict
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we've seen mitt romney give several major foreign policy speeches, one last year down in south carolina. he gave another out in nevada. of course, he had the foreign policy trip. he's obviously trying to make headway around this libya issue, which, in fact, if you read a lot of the reports coming out about the administration's handling of this, he has a real case to press against this administration in terms of the shifting reasons that the libya thing actually happened. so i think he's really going to talk not only about american exceptionalism, but also talk about america being a leader in the world and make the case that obama has not led, not been a strong leader on iran, on the middle east, the arab spring. that's what he'll do. i think the question is whether or not he has the credibility to step into what some might say is, in fact, a foreign policy gap when it comes from this administration. >> i mean, you've got a president here, of course, obviously, the successful raid that killed osama bin laden, winding down the war in afghanistan, ending the war in iraq. is this an area wh
we've seen mitt romney give several major foreign policy speeches, one last year down in south carolina. he gave another out in nevada. of course, he had the foreign policy trip. he's obviously trying to make headway around this libya issue, which, in fact, if you read a lot of the reports coming out about the administration's handling of this, he has a real case to press against this administration in terms of the shifting reasons that the libya thing actually happened. so i think he's really...
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you have mitt romney down ten points a month ago, after the debate, he's down, it's within the margin of error. this is supposed to be the state where the grand experiment of the auto bailout took place. and there's no way mitt romney could win that state. basically tied right now. and again, whether michigan ends up in his cone or not, this shows a huge thing taking place. we've got to assume it's taking place in florida, north carolina, virginia. i'd be shocked if mitt romney wasn't ahead in a lot of these swing states by the time these polls come out. >> and it forces the obama campaign to allocate resources to places like michigan, which they probably thought they had pretty faithfully in hand. but look, the poll numbers on women are really interesting. i have always believed that most of us in the news business very often underestimate the impact of the economy on women as a voting group. >> yeah. always talking about abortion and a lot of other social issues. because, you know what? it's the same thing too with a lot of gay voters that will come up to me and go, listen, i care a
you have mitt romney down ten points a month ago, after the debate, he's down, it's within the margin of error. this is supposed to be the state where the grand experiment of the auto bailout took place. and there's no way mitt romney could win that state. basically tied right now. and again, whether michigan ends up in his cone or not, this shows a huge thing taking place. we've got to assume it's taking place in florida, north carolina, virginia. i'd be shocked if mitt romney wasn't ahead in...
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we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i want you to know that, also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ intro
we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight...
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we're still down net jobs. we still have more unemployed people on a per capita basis on a specific basis than we did when he first took office. i think a lot of these arguments are very valid. we're not going to do it by giving money to the solyndras of is the world. >> i just want to point out there are conflicting numbers and views regarding what you just said about the numbers about people who are just not looking for jobs anymore. >> no, they're not. that's a point as well there is 23 million people who have not been employed or who are now taking the looking at part-time employment. >> tara, let's -- >> i want to -- i do want to dive in to the numbers. and i would love to come back to the story about the clean energy and green jobs, because it's one of the bright spots in our economy. but what is not true that that the unemployment rate decreased because people aren't looking for jobs. actually, in this past month, over 400,000 new people joined the labor market. so this particular decrease in unemploymen
we're still down net jobs. we still have more unemployed people on a per capita basis on a specific basis than we did when he first took office. i think a lot of these arguments are very valid. we're not going to do it by giving money to the solyndras of is the world. >> i just want to point out there are conflicting numbers and views regarding what you just said about the numbers about people who are just not looking for jobs anymore. >> no, they're not. that's a point as well...
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and his disapproval tick down, we saw mitt romney's tick up a little bit. so it is important to see with the campaigns what they do going forward. and also in terms of the jobs numbers, how the americans feel about the economy. i have been saying this for six to nine months, it is about how they feel. and if this new 7.6 number reflects a big change in the picture, that will reflect how the americans feel. and that will, of course, benefit the president. if they still feel the same about the economy as they did in the past several months, then it doesn't hurt them. but changes the cycle of the overall picture. >> here is what they said about the impact of the debate performance. >> romney got an unfiltered shot. and everybody is taking a second look at him. so the real question to me of the campaign, is can romney take this campaign and run with it? if so the campaign of president obama will only get more negative, that is what fear does. >> so the second look that murphy is talking about, does that have a lasting impact? one or two news cycles and then it
and his disapproval tick down, we saw mitt romney's tick up a little bit. so it is important to see with the campaigns what they do going forward. and also in terms of the jobs numbers, how the americans feel about the economy. i have been saying this for six to nine months, it is about how they feel. and if this new 7.6 number reflects a big change in the picture, that will reflect how the americans feel. and that will, of course, benefit the president. if they still feel the same about the...
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does anybody in the romney campaign think they're only down by a point or two in ohio? no. they know ohio is falling into troubled territory. >> and they're pretty far behind in new hampshire. they're fighting a dogfight right now in north carolina. >> yeah. >> it's october 1st. that was a state that among the swing states, that was a state that was supposed to be the relatively easy gift for romney. there's a one or two-point race in north carolina on october 1st. they're facing an uphill slide across the board and they know it. >> by the way, you can't run 30-second ads in enough places to do this. if you're going to win, if you're going to turn things around, i'll say the quote that drives liberals crazy, a rising tide lifts all boats, this first debate on wednesday, it's got to shock the campaign back to life. because if romney does well, you're not going to be able to buy enough ads to do what a great performance by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it woul
does anybody in the romney campaign think they're only down by a point or two in ohio? no. they know ohio is falling into troubled territory. >> and they're pretty far behind in new hampshire. they're fighting a dogfight right now in north carolina. >> yeah. >> it's october 1st. that was a state that among the swing states, that was a state that was supposed to be the relatively easy gift for romney. there's a one or two-point race in north carolina on october 1st. they're...
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chuck, break down the polls for us. >> well, you know, it's been interesting about him. we've got a new poll that comes out tonight. what i've thought interesting about the polls in the last few days, quinnipiac, cnn, they all show the same thing. the president's number, the bounce he got out of the convention, it has not deflated. he is staying in the 49%, 50%. >> granholm. >> the fluidity is in romney's number. romney is anywhere, instead of sitting in the single digits, instead of the low 40s, he's moved up to the mid-40s, inching up to 46% or 47%. that shows you where the give is. that's good news for romney, the bad news is, he needs the president to deflate a little bit. he's got to start peeling -- granted this is step one which is catching up, step two is then to peel away a little bit from the president. >> so much easier said than done. rattner? >> chuck, what about the issue that romney is doing so well in the red states that makes the race look closer on a national basis but when you get into the swing state polls, obama is now opening so much daylight it's g
chuck, break down the polls for us. >> well, you know, it's been interesting about him. we've got a new poll that comes out tonight. what i've thought interesting about the polls in the last few days, quinnipiac, cnn, they all show the same thing. the president's number, the bounce he got out of the convention, it has not deflated. he is staying in the 49%, 50%. >> granholm. >> the fluidity is in romney's number. romney is anywhere, instead of sitting in the single digits,...